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November 20, 2018 November 20, 2018 at 9:14:08 AM UTC link Permalink
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Amastan Amastan November 20, 2018 November 20, 2018 at 8:32:36 AM UTC link Permalink

Tamazight language resources (recommended book):

Tamaziɣt Tatrart - DICTIONNAIRE DES MOTS NOUVEAUX - TAMAZIGHT
HADDADOU Mohand Akli

This is one of the best modern Tamazight language dictionaries. It was authored by Dr. Mohand Akli Haddadou (who passed away just yesterday).

https://www.dzairinfos.com/arti...-mots-nouveaux

Tamazight-language contributors on Tatoeba might find this dictionary a valuable resource in their work on this website. I strongly recommend it to Amazigh speakers.

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Amastan Amastan November 19, 2018 November 19, 2018 at 8:53:31 PM UTC link Permalink

Tamazight/Berber:

The tagging of Uyezjen's sentences is essential to show which dialect of Tamazight/Berber they belong to. We would like tag all Berber sentences according to their respective dialects.

Can somebody do something in this regard?

Amastan Amastan November 19, 2018, edited November 19, 2018 November 19, 2018 at 8:14:09 PM UTC, edited November 19, 2018 at 8:16:52 PM UTC link Permalink

Tamazight/Berber
Mass-tagging

Thanks Soliloquist:
How do I know when this problem has been solved to ask an admin to do the job for me?

I also think that in case this is solved, corpus maintainers should be given the right to do it. I will soon start proofreading thousands of sentences and I wouldn't like this to take me ages. This should also help admins since they would be less solicited for this kind of help.

Amastan Amastan November 19, 2018, edited November 19, 2018 November 19, 2018 at 7:18:08 PM UTC, edited November 19, 2018 at 7:18:35 PM UTC link Permalink

Tamazight/Berber
Uyezjen's Mozabite sentences

Uyezjen, a Berber-speaking member who contributed sentences in the Mozabite dialect, has more than 4000 sentences. I need to tag them with the Tumẓabt-Mozabite tag:

https://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sh..._with_tag/4817

Tagging them one by one would take a lot of time and with the slow connection I have, this would take ages. Is there a way to mass-tag all his sentences automatically?

Amastan Amastan November 16, 2018 November 16, 2018 at 9:05:37 AM UTC link Permalink

I have had a look at the vocabulary items that need sentences and most of them are relatively rare words. It's quite hard even for a native speaker to make sentences with such words. Such words are sometimes rare even in the largest online corpora.

Amastan Amastan November 16, 2018 November 16, 2018 at 7:20:44 AM UTC link Permalink

Tamaziɣt/Berber

SInce there is already an astronomy club (Sirius Association) in Bejaia, we have decided to translate all sentence related to astronomy into Tamazigh/Berber. We have already informed them about our scientific activity and they will find the Amazigh astronomy corpus useful.

Mr Belarhzali (a math teacher) together with the contributor Warwari (artist and technician) will translate all math-related sentences. Our bibliographical resources are in bilingual TAMAZIGHT-French dictionaries:

LEXIQUE DE MATHEMATIQUES - TAFSUT, (Tamazight-Français)

Lexique Berbère Moderne ( Tamazight - Français )
Edition corrigée et augmentée pour le compte du HCA
par Habib Allah MANSOURI
Français /Tamaziɣt

Dictionnaire d'électrotechnique français-tamazight (Mohand Mahrazi)

These are some of the technical lexicons and dictionaries published in the Tamazight/Berber language.




Amastan Amastan November 15, 2018 November 15, 2018 at 9:35:23 AM UTC link Permalink

Belarhzali

Ahat ad k-yesnekni waya imi kečč d amusnak.
You might be interested in that since you're a mathematician.

Amastan Amastan November 11, 2018 November 11, 2018 at 2:17:53 PM UTC link Permalink

Tamaziɣt/Berber

Azul fell-awen a aytmaten. Tanemmirt i wakk wid ay yettekkayen s tutlayt tamaziɣt (ama s tentala taqbaylit, ama s tentala n tlemmast n Meṛṛuk, ama s tcawit).

Yessefk ad teẓrem dakken nettaru tamaziɣt da s ugemmay alatini n Mouloud Mammeri. Ma tebɣam/teɣsem anasiw n ugemmay alatini, zedmet-t-id seg-a:

http://www.akufi.org/anasiw/fr+.zip

Kemmlet amahil-nwen, igerrez/iɣuda. Tutlayt tamaziɣt ɣer-s ugar n 149.000 n tefyar deg usmel-a.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/stats/s...es_by_language

Ma yella kra ay teḥwajem/tusrem, arut-d.
Afud igerrzen


Amastan Amastan November 5, 2018 November 5, 2018 at 5:33:26 PM UTC link Permalink

BelaidAqasriw

Nesɛa imaziɣwalen ay d-yettekkayen s tentaliwin timaziɣin yemgerraden:

Tacawit:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...Kahina_n_awras

Taqbaylit:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc.../MessDjaaf/ber

Tamẓabit:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...er/Uyezjen/ber

Tamaziɣt n tlemmast n Meṛṛuk:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...ser/Belarhzali
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...ahaMansoub/ber

Tamaceɣt:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sh..._with_tag/9865

Tanfusit (Libya):
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...er/madghis/ber

Ur cikkeɣ ara ad zemren ad d-msegrawen anect-a akk n yimaziɣwalen ɣef tikkelt ma tebḍa tmaziɣt deg usmel-a. Nnig waya, ayen ay la tetteg Tiddukla Tadelsant Imedyazen (d tiddukla tadelsant tazzayrit) deg unrar-a ad yagar s waṭas ayen ara gen akk imaziɣwalen ay yettmahalen i yiman-nsen kan. Ayen ay d-tejmeɛ tiddukla-a d tifyar s tmaceɣt, tacelḥit, tamẓabit, taznatit (Timimun) ed teẓnagt (tantala tamaziɣt n Muriṭanya) ur zemmren ara ad t-id-jemɛen yimsiwlen n tentaliwin-a seg-a ɣef 20 n yiseggasen lemmer yal yiwen ad yettmahal i yiman-nnes. S kra n wayen ay la tetteg tiddukla-a ad yettwasɣerbel sakkin ad d-yers deg Tatoeba.

Ad rnuɣ ad k-id-sfeṛḥeɣ: ussan-a ad d-rnunt tefyar s tcelḥit n Waṭlas Ablidi.








Amastan Amastan November 5, 2018 November 5, 2018 at 5:20:14 PM UTC link Permalink

Azul a BelaidAqesriw,

Akken ad yili deg tmussni-nnek, akk isugam (corpus) ara yilin s tmaziɣt ad agaren s waṭas, aṭas akk ayen ara d-yettwaxedmen s beḍḍu n tutlayt tamaziɣt.

For your knowledge, all the corpora published here under the Berber label will be much bigger than any other corpus published under labels that divide the Berber language.

Nnig waya, ur yessefk ara yiwen ad ak-yessekcem ccekk deg teqbaylit-nnek.

In addition to that, no one has the right to make you doubt or question your Kabyleness.

Amastan Amastan November 4, 2018 November 4, 2018 at 10:52:33 AM UTC link Permalink

BelaidAqesriw

Azul fell-ak, anṣuf yes-k ɣer Tatoeba.

Mi ara tebɣud ad tessuqqled tafyirt, sit ɣef tqeffalt n "文A" yellan nnig tefyirt, ɣef uzelmaḍ.

Mi ara tebɣud ad tbeddled/ad tesseɣtid tafyirt, sit ɣef tqeffalt-nni n "ukeryun" yellan daɣ nnig tefyirt, gar tqeffalt n "文A" ed tqeffalt-nni n wul.

Ma yella kra n wugur niḍen ay tesɛid, aru-iyi-d s wuslig (privé).

Ɣer daɣ iwenniten (commentaires) ay ak-d-ǧǧiɣ deg tefyar-nnek.



Amastan Amastan October 28, 2018 October 28, 2018 at 10:25:28 AM UTC link Permalink

Trang,

What I suggest here is that we keep the status quo regarding "ber". The language has just been recognized official (Algerian constitutional amendment of 2016) and an academy is on the way. This is why I'd suggest that it would be wiser and more correct to keep the status quo.

Amastan Amastan October 27, 2018, edited October 27, 2018 October 27, 2018 at 12:34:38 PM UTC, edited October 27, 2018 at 12:39:58 PM UTC link Permalink

Uyezjen's sentences will remain under the "ber" banner.

They are in the Mozabite Amazigh dialect:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...er/Uyezjen/ber

These sentences are in Tuareg (thv) and will obviously remain under the "ber" banner, too:
https://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sh..._with_tag/9865

We're not building a Tamazight corpus to be dismantled later.

Amastan Amastan October 27, 2018 October 27, 2018 at 9:30:50 AM UTC link Permalink

CK,

You know what kind of controversy this could start.

Amastan Amastan October 26, 2018, edited October 26, 2018 October 26, 2018 at 9:35:50 PM UTC, edited October 26, 2018 at 9:36:35 PM UTC link Permalink

Tamazight - Mozabite
Aissimahfoud06

Regarding Mozabite, a couple of Tatoeba members have already contributed 4000 sentences in that Amazigh dialect and here is part of the Mozabite corpus:

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...er/Uyezjen/ber

I also have my own corpus of Mozabite that I'll be adding in the coming days. As you can see, I have been very busy behind the scenes, documenting Amazigh dialects in the last 6 years :-)