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Сказ №339862

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 03:57:37 UTC link Permalink

I don't think this matches with the Japanese

nickyeow nickyeow 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:05:24 UTC link Permalink

The Japanese says "Everyone knows he's still alive", right?

I don't actually speak Japanese very well; I shouldn't have been translating from Japanese. But I guess the damage is done.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:07:13 UTC link Permalink

Well the Japanese is from Tanaka Corpus, and most unadopted sentences from there should be taken with a grain of salt

nickyeow nickyeow 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:15:43 UTC link Permalink

What's wrong with the Japanese sentence?

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:21:10 UTC link Permalink

I don't know since I'm not a native, but when Tanaka Corpus sentences were imported there were a lot of mistakes in many of them, so natives are trying to check and fix them
There's probably nothing wrong with it, but until a native adopts it, we can't know for sure

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 красавіка 2021 г., edited 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:21:48 UTC, edited 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:22:45 UTC link Permalink

Also when you edited the sentence it didn't match with the Spanish anymore (it says "no one" instead of "everyone") so I added it again
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Could you adopt it?

nickyeow nickyeow 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:23:39 UTC link Permalink

The original sentence contained a mistake often made by Cantonese speakers. I've now corrected the mistake, but the sentence still means "Everyone knows he's still alive".

I'm sorry for the confusion this has caused.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:29:37 UTC link Permalink

No it's fine I think I'm making it worse
A Spanish speaker translated the original sentence, and the Spanish translation says "No one knew he was alive"
Would the original sentence match with that, or should I delete it?

CK CK 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:32:02 UTC link Permalink

If you were in fact translating from English and not from Japanese, then I can unlink the Japanese for you, and link your sentence to the English.

nickyeow nickyeow 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:33:43 UTC link Permalink

That would be a mistranslation then. You should probably just delete the Chinese sentence you just added.

nickyeow nickyeow 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:38:14 UTC link Permalink

CK, that sounds reasonable to me.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:39:28 UTC link Permalink

Ok, thanks for the clarification

nickyeow nickyeow 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 04:39:34 UTC link Permalink

Wow, has it been 12 years already???

CK CK 16 красавіка 2021 г. 16 красавіка 2021 г. у 05:01:22 UTC link Permalink

> CK, that sounds reasonable to me.

Done.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #203129.

#203129

linked by nickyeow, 12 снежня 2009 г.

誰也知道他現在還在人世。

added by nickyeow, 12 снежня 2009 г.

linked by Shishir, 15 красавіка 2021 г.

誰都知道他現在還在人世。

edited by nickyeow, 16 красавіка 2021 г.

unlinked by DJ_Saidez, 16 красавіка 2021 г.

linked by nickyeow, 16 красавіка 2021 г.

linked by CK, 16 красавіка 2021 г.

#203129

unlinked by CK, 16 красавіка 2021 г.